Psychology Wiki

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including the navigation template

Its useful if you are setting a page up for the first time to include the navigation template for that section. The evolutionary psychology section uses the BioPsy template, although there is no reason why you couldnt do a similar evolutionary one.

Are you in the position to set up the structure of the evolution section at

Biological psychology: Evolutionary psychologyso that it your new articles are logically divided up. I use the metaphor of nested book chapters, one chapter in one book leading to another book of chaptersLifeartist 22:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Good work on the Biological psychology: Evolutionary psychologypage.

Ive gathered together some more links there for you to organise. I see from MostlyZens page you've been personally approaching people for material, thats a neat strategy, hopefully some of the big names might be enticed to join us, at least we get great contentLifeartist 05:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

another good thing you are doing which I like is looking for the main researchers {and by implication the main research groups} around the world working on an area. I think this is a good thing to make explicit for all the main areas, as it makes the raft of papers that come out more intelligible.
Have you decided on becoming an administrator yet?Lifeartist 21:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


Dear jason-- I just noticed your comment from some time ago about a new user with a Ph.D. in psychology. Arthur Becker-Weidman has a Ph.D. in human development and is a licensed clinical social worker. It's not exactly the same thing-- for what that's worth. It happens that I do have the psychology Ph.D., though, so you had the right statement about the wrong person --Jean Mercer 18:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Genes and Environment

Hi Jay,

I like your answer in the debate. I didn't realise there were so many areas of Evolutionary psychology. I am quite interested in evolution, but in the past I've fallen into the trap of attributing too much to genetics and not enough to how we adapt our behaviour to our environment. You are right of course that behaviour is the result of the interaction of the two. The ToK stuff makes this quite clear. I'll post a proper response on the debate page. Mostly Zen 21:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations - you are now an administrator

I've signed you up for the priveleges!!! I too have some thoughts to put up on the debate, but Ive been held up this evening - I found a source of internet addresses for thousands of psychology journals and have been trying to format them for our purposes. It just shows me that there is a tremendous information management problem in the area which only something like the wiki can address.Lifeartist 21:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, good to learn you've become an Admin too. If you are online now, could you have a look at the Psychology_Wiki_For_Beginners page? I'm trying to get this page sorted out so we can invite more contributors. Tell me what you think, and leave lists of ideas for improvement on the page if you want, so we can flesh them out. Mostly Zen 22:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


Might have just had our first vandalism. Someone edited loads of Info off of the main page. Might have been an accident, but it was a single edit from a random IP address, which seemed odd. I changed it back again. I don't really want to protect pages just yet, as its not fair on other contributors. Apparently the best thing to do with vandals is ignore them, block their IP and revert the page back to normal. If we get lots of vandalism on a page then we can protect the page, but not sure its a good idea. Mostly Zen 22:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


I was thinking we could do with a general discussion forum, rather than using each others Talk pages all the time.

Why Don't we use the Community Portal talk page for general stuff, and sort out our various conversations under the correct topics? I'm getting lost with all these messages...

We could also have an Admin discussion forum somewhere for admin related stuff? As long as we check these 2 pages regularly things will be fine. Urgent messages still on userpages is fine. It also makes the wiki look more 'Alive' to other contributors if they can read what we're up to. See you on the Community Portal Talk page. Mostly Zen 22:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

New textbook

There's a new textbook for Evolutionary Psychology just been published in the States. ISBN 0471264032 . If you follow it to the site you can go to the chapter headings. It might give you some more ideas for structuring the headings and drawing together the various articles you've been collecting.Lifeartist 14:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC) Ah good, glad you knew of it. Its clearly a developing area which Buss seems to have covered pretty extensively!. I had actually got to it after following the links you gave me. Thanks for those, one of the joys of working on the wiki is that it takes me into new areas, I always find it interesting how other people are seeing things.Lifeartist 22:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Depression paper

Interesting stuff Jaywin. I'm going to work hard on the depression page this week, to try and get it up to scratch. If you and I build on the work Lifeartist has done then it will work well.

Once the general article is in place I'm going to ask Wikipedians who are in the category User:Depressed if they would like to contribute an anonymous exerience of depression. I've suffered quite badly from it myself in the past and it still gets me (Daaark moods) every so often, so I'll make it a sensitive and friendly invite. After that is underway I think we should go on a serious recruitment drive. Lets discuss this on the Community Portal Talk. Mostly Zen 23:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Psi Chi Link

Excellent stuff, I got us listed on recently. I thought that Psi Chi was some kind of Fraternity before I followed the link (we don't have fraternities in the UK, which is a shame). Am doing lots on Depression today, please pop by and let me know what you think/want to contribute. Best to discuss it on the depression discussion page. I'm going to add that article to my watchlist. Mostly Zen 14:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Brilliant All the links we can trade the better, as it increases the google rank and sends traffic to the site. See google analytics for current picture. I had never heard of Psi Chi but have put their article up now as a return for their favour. Lifeartist

New admin forum

I've been experimenting setting up forums and have one going at Forum:Admin_discussion_forum which we can use for admin stuff.Lifeartist 20:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

10th July Update

Hey Jaywin,

Here is the update I am sending to all users today. Today I have contacted Jim Wales to tell him about our project. I have also contacted Angela, Sannse and Gil, who work for Wikia. Have a look here and see what you think of the promotion. Hope you are doing good :)

Just to let you know that the Psychology Wiki is continuing to grow. Check out our:

Hope you can help us building the community. Otherwise, please let other people know about us as much as you can, or log in and vote for us to be a featured Wikia here: Vote


Mostly Zen 22:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Where abouts are you based Jaywin?

Lifeartist is going to Wikimania to meet Gil (the CEO of Wikia) and Jim Wales (the Founder of wikipedia) its in Harvard law school apparently. I cant afford to fly out there from England, but aren't you based in the US somewhere? I as pretty sure you were.

If you can make that weekend it would be a good idea, I think its only $70, but accomodation is a bit more. It would be good for you to be able to meet Lifeartist, as he only lives in the next town from me (coincidentally) so we get to talk on the phone really cheaply and I've met him in person once.

Hope things are going well with you anyway Mostly Zen 01:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thats OK. I am too broke to go as well, but I thought we should tell you because it would be closer for you. Basically Gil and Jim think the Psychology Wiki is a damn good idea and are going to start marketing us heavily after Wikimania, ie after august 6th. Have a look on Lifeartists talk page for more info, and see our discussion on Gils page too. The Wikimania link above should explain what the meeting is about.
Sorry to hear you are a bit poor at the moment, I'm in the same position, having finished my 2nd year of my degree, and unable to get any temporary work over the summer, as there are about 10,000 students in this city trying to do the same thing! Speak to you later Mostly Zen 09:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Google analytics

Hi Jaywin. Just to remind you that the google analytics page is starting to produce some interesting data. You can get to the page following these instructions Google Analytics report and then choosing to view the report. The map with where our visitors come from is really pleasingLifeartist 22:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Added some templates

Just to keep you up to date with what I've been doing.

  • I've redesigned the Comm Portal and To Do completely, they are a lot better now and should help the users/contributors. Comm portal is going to the the best page for using/navigating the whole site, To Do is going to be the best page to editing the whole site.
  • Lifeartist has been working hard on Clinical Depression and various copying of content and many other things.
  • Ive made 3 new templates, Browsebar, Admins and Active talk. Ive put these on your userpage. Move them whereever you want.
  • We've got a complete list of Journals, and good lists of blogs and forums to start advertising the project on. Have a look at the Attracting New Contributors part of the community portal (and its main article) on what we are going to do.
  • After Wikimania, Gil and Jim Wales will hopefully give us some serious marketing muscle.

Hope you're doing OK Mostly Zen 16:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I've just made myself a funky new signiature too: Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) See the beginners guide to editing to see how I did it, or I can make one for you :)

New Way of Indexing

Just a thought but... people have asked me why we are trying to build a chapter heading type index (see Main_Page) instead of just using Wiki Categories. I thought about it and they are right. We shouldn't try to make this project like it is a book, we should use the technology available and let it do the work for us.

What I wanted to ask you, seeing as how you have done more category work than me or Lifeartist is, could you come up with some ideas for a better way to index the whole site? I think we'd still want to index in a similar way, except using Wiki categories to build the index for us naturally. Let me know what Ideas you have.

Secondly, we are going to start emailing people soon, because Wikia might start marketing us in August, so if we start working on an invite (i'll link you when I start it) we can send it out to all the blogs/forums/websites etc...

I have just finished our tutorial (see Help) and am cleaning up the help pages. Also, check out the General Discussion Forum and the list of things to do (linked from Tasks to Do Portal). Let me know what you think of all this stuff and change anything that looks wrong...

Hope everything is going well over in your side of the world :)

Take it easy man

Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 23:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, its very tricky, especially due to the fragmented nature of Psychology. The problem is, that even if we DON'T use the Wiki categories, we will have to build the type of Index that Lifeartist imagined, with chapter headings etc... which will be just as difficult, and more work.
We could rely on the fact that this is not like a book, and has a good search function. If we were going to Index depression for example, we could categorize it under... Clinical, mental health and maybe some other categories. If we were going to index the MBTI test, we could categorize it under Tests, and Personality.
We could let people search using Just the search function, but point out how the categories work in a tutorial (or help) which I am doing? Then if you found say, the Hamilton Depression rating scale, you could go to the Category and find out what other rating scales we have and what other Depression articles we have.
Those were my ideas, indexing by category subjects, rather than trying to break down the whol subject into discrete boxes. That would just fragment it more. The categories can have considerable overlap, which might help to integrate the field... hmmm... I feel a diagram coming on... Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 10:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Have a look at this Diagram:

The Psychology Wiki can account for the overlap between different fields of knowledge in a way that is impossible in a standard text book model of learning.

Many different fields in Psychology overlap considerably in their content. In trying to break these areas of content down into discrete fields, psychology has become fragmented.

  • The nature of a textbook structure is such that this is necessary to present the information clearly.
  • The nature of an interlinked online resource is such that the overlap can be accounted for in multiple categories. * Articles which belong in two or more categories can be archived as such, and hence found by researchers in discrete specialisms.

I'm working on another too... Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 15:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Heres the diagram idea, but for Psychology as a whole. Note how its similar to the tree of knowledge, only not hierarchical. Henriques is correct though, I just think that his diagram does not make it clear though how things like the social environment impact on the physical one (all the building, farming and pollution causing extinction & climate change for example). I'm sure he has taken that into account, perhaps it is a mistake to interpret the cones diagram in that manner.

Anyway, here is the other diagram (bottom left)

All the fields of Psychology overlap considerably. They are in fact all part of the study of human mind & behaviour.

  • Learning psychology, it was necessary to split the discipline into discrete areas, in order to analyse it properly, and to reduce the effect of confounding external influences.
  • However, in doing so, we have lost sight of the fact that it is in fact one unified field, the study of human mind and behaviour.
  • Categorisation in a new format, the Psychology Wiki, should allow us to account for the overlap between presently seperate fields and hence integrate the knowledge.
  • Don't take this diagram too literally, its just to illustrate the point. In reality these fields are of varying sizes and overlap in multiple dimensions, which are impossible to diagramize. The Psychology Wiki's categories should allow us to capture all the information in its proper fields though.

Right! enough of me practicing articles on your user talk, let me know what you think. This could be a major 'selling point' of the Psychology Wiki idea :)

Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 15:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

  • See also this discussion in the general forum. We had a new contributor arrive who is keen to make some structure changes. Sorry, its sometimes hard to in touch with you because of the time difference. Hope things are good in the US :) Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixing the Structure

Wow, theres a lot of debate ongoing about this one on the main discussion forum, good to see its being used and useful. Im glad the user based structure (Comm Portal, Forum, Tasks to Do & Help & Talk Pages) are working at least.

Yes, you are completely right about epistemological differences. Even with the Tree of Knowledge, it is one thing to observe biological psychological behaviour, and a totally different thing to be personally experiencing it. I think this is more due to a basic split in our perception of reality. I experience my personal reality, and I experience Jason as some clever American guy I talk to online. You experience yourself as 'I' and experience Tom as a crazy english dude who sends you rambling emails.

I don't think the split of inner and outer worlds of experience can ever be unified. Its just a basic part of reality. Good Psychology should never be radical behaviourism or radical introspectionism though (i tend to the latter to be honest). We dont need to worry about that split, thats just a given, we just need to make sure that neither side of the split of behaviourism or internalism think that THEY have the 'true' psychology.

We just have to recognise that Behaviourism is the other side of the coin from Personal Experience. Eating lots of foods containing Tryptophan will boost your serotonin levels, and that feels like happiness. I always found that the best way to truly realise that biology/chemistry IS consciousness was to take a psychedelic, e.g. Psilocybin paper. Having a strong background in chemistry and physics, my own personal 'spiritual' experiences have been along the lines of realising and accepting that I am physics, chemistry, biology and culture. It can give you a sense of unity like that.

This is probably why I loved the tree of knowledge that you showed me so much. It provided a structure for thoughts and models of reality I had been thinking of for quite a while. I've added the ToK to my Myspace I love the idea so much. I really must finish reading Henriques paper in full...

Don't worry about being an Anal INTP. At least you are Intuitive. If everyone was an ENFJ like me, nothing would ever get done as we sat around and philophised. It takes all sorts to build a community.

Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 17:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Hello Jaywin, Just wanted to say thanks for your warm welcome. Look forward to working with you. Sonrisasgrandes 16:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC) :)

Another one for your collection

Just came across him by accident but thought you would be interestd! Geoffrey Miller (evolutionary psychologist) 21:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi Jaywin,

I hope things are going well with you. Here's a start on our new Category system, which is going to be a long (and slow) process for us to sort out. Have a look at these 2 forums:

One we have sorted out how to use the categories properly, we can copy the forum discussions to their own pages on the Psychology Wiki, a page for the Category Tree and a page on How to use Categories.

At the moment, its such a big task, that it deserves its own forum to discuss it. You are actually much better at this stuff than me (anal INTP again I think!) so please let me know what you think, and feel free to take over this aspect if you want, I'm much happier attracting new contributors to be honest (being an extrovert I guess) Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

PS Lifeartist and I have just decided to start using Real names for the project. You can change your signiature to add your real name here: Psychology_Wiki_For_Beginners#Fancy_signatures if you like :) Tom Michael - Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk)

IRC channel:

Hey Jason,

Want to say hello in IRC? irc://

Tom Michael - Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 14:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm I don't know why its broken. IRC stands for internet relay chat. Its a live chatroom, so we can discuss the project basically. Once I've worked out what's wrong with it, I can really get it working for us. Good stuff on those categories, we're starting to get there now.

Also, I've been emailing the bloglist and have contacted about 50 wikipedians who are psychology academics, professionals or students. Things are looking good :)

Tom Michael - Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I've added some links about how to use IRC to the bottom left of the help panel in the Community portal. Let me know if that helps. Apparently the link I gave you only works for the Opera browse (a funny one which I have). Zen.


Hello Jason, MostlyZen and I were going to try and get together on MSN some time tonight to chat. He's in the UK, however so the time difference doesn't really permit this to happen. So, he recommended I talked to you to see if you'd be online at all tonight. My contact info's on my user page. Hope you're having an excellent day. Andrew Schramm (talk) 20:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC) :)

Wow! Good work Jason

Good stuff getting rid of all those born-died categories, I think I managed about 20 of them, but got so bored that I gave up. I've looked through the categories and we've reduced them to about 2,800 now, which is approx 250 less categories than the first time I checked. I've had a few more thoughts about the categories, but lets talk about this in the How to use categories general forum.

As and when we managed to sort out which subcategories belong in each group, we can update the category tree in the general forum too.

Oh yes, If you get MSN messenger, you can talk to myself, lifeartist and Andrew (Sonrisasgrandes). Especially andrew, as hes in the same time zone as you, whereas me and Lifeartist live within 15 miles of each other, which is a lucky coincidence, as we'd not met before we started this.

Tom Michael - Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 22:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I've just got Yahoo so I can talk to you. I'm assuming its nysa71(AT)yahoo(DOT)com right? Tom Michael - Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 23:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
My yahoo address is mostly_zen(AT)

History Link

Yes I really like that history idea, we can eventually get a bot to add in all those appropriate dates. It looks like a really good idea, just the right way to format the dates. Don't worry about taking the idea from the Star wars wiki, its a well put together community full of good ideas. I adapted our beginners guide from the Muppet Wiki (believe it or not!)

Is there any way you can use MSN, or at least come online on your Yahoo? I'm getting messages on my userpage from you, Andy, Lifeartist and some other people faster than I can type replies!

We really need to get one messaging system working for all of our users, maybe I can work out how to make IRC easy for people to use, otherwise it might have to be MSN, as its far more commonly used in the UK (pretty much everyone in fact) and myself and lifeartist are already on it. Is there any way you can try to install it again? I'm happy talking to you on Yahoo, but Lifeartist is on MSN too, and it'd be better to have one system being used from the start. At least this way you'd have your Psy Wiki contacts seperate from your Yahoo friends! :)

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 17:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jason,
I'll start at 1950 and work my way towards 2006 applying your dates page. Race you? Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 19:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
PS: You do know you can use Template:Pagename dont you?
Er... we missed out a dash - between the 3rd and 4th to last dates! I thought it was just my typo! sorry!
OK, but I ended up putting that stub back in again! Im thinking that adding the templates {{Browsebar}} and {{Psych-stub}} might be a good idea too. Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 20:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually I take that back, the history section looks better without those included
Hi Jason,

Just to add my congratulations on your latest scheme. It looks as if it is going to work really well. I for one appreciate the effort you are puting in here. Things like the Timeline idea will make this such a useful resource in the years to come. Ive put some links to it all on History of Psychology, capital P which is where the history section is housed.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 21:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Arg! you won then... I was doing really well, but then Bri bri came onto MSN, and me, her and Joe started talking. Try to download MSN messenger again if you can, because theres 4 of us that have it now :) Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Zen gone to get some work

Hi Jason,

Lack of money has meant that I am going to stay at my sisters house, where I can get some work as a Labourer, helping my brother in law who is a builder. At my sisters house they have NO internet Eeeeek! Anyway, this means that I won't be here to look after things, and with Lifeartist away at Wikimania it will be pretty quiet. Do you think you can look after things and newcomers etc... until I get back? I might be a week or two! Lifeartist is due back from Wikimania in about 4 days anyway.

Hope things are good with you..

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 11:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to say I am back in circulation

Hi Jason. Just to let you know that I am back after a brief holiday.

Nice work on the timeline and noting the start of our enterprise.!

I have just looked at the google analytics data and we have doubled our visitors to over 2000 per week in the last fortnight, so getting our name out on the blogs has really worked.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 00:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The economics question

I understood what you think. All articles should be in group 1 unless they are entitled the same as a section. eg because there is a clinical psychology section the clinical psychology page needs to be called Introduction to cliinical psychology. So if someone types in clinical psychology they get taken to the section and the can look at the basic article if they want to.

With economics we dont have a section yet, although you might argue we should have, either under Ind&Org psychology or encompassing consumer psychology which is in "other fields". If we have the section its style 2 if not keep it as background material and style 1. if in doubt style 1 and it can be changed to style 2 later. We need to check with Tom as I think he was starting to use style three as he tidied up the main category pages. Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 14:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting out these creases!

My understanding is that it should be biological psychology, I think I got into biopsychology, just to get it into the navigation template. It looks like Tom carried that on but the original article on WP was "biological psychology" - so probably best to stick with that.Hope that helpsDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Zen is back

Hi Jason,

No more building work for the time being, so I am back here to build some more of the Wiki instead. It all looks good, my marketing work has doubled our weekly visitors to 2000+ :)

I was thinking we should make the Tree of Knowledge System our next featured article, as Clinical depression is far too large a topic for 3 of us to do justice to. The ToK is a homegrown project too, started and written entirely on this Wiki.

Im recruiting physicist and biologist friends of mine to contribute to their specialist sections. Once its done to a good standard, we can present it as the next featured article and you can email Dr Henriques again.

Hope things are good in the US

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 14:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


Jaywin, That's so awesome. Thanks for letting me know, I'm looking forward to seeing where that article goes. I feel like I should delete my rambling comments on its talk page. :/ Hope you're having a good day. Andrew Schramm (talk) 17:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Jaywin, when I was doing some work on the main page under the "How do I contribute to the psy wiki" section I think I accidentally deleted something. Now the color from that template is going all the way down to the bottom of the page. I'm not sure how to fix this. Thanks for your help, sorry! Andy Schramm Sonrisasgrandes(talk) 20:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jason.The search facility doesnt work for me either, They updated the database this morning and they have probably need to restore it completely. A good place to raise this is on the wikia IRC, thats where the staff hang out and they can normally answer the questions if none of us are around. Follow wiki Home link on the left panel and then go to their community portal.Hope this helpsDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 22:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Forum troubles

Yes I was trying out the forum and realised you had the same problem as me. In the end Soparla fixed it for me but I dont know how. They said they would improve the instructions on the Wikia help pages, but I am not sure if they did. If you go on the forum there you may find the links that we discussed at the time. Sorry I can be of more helpDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The problem with ToK was the missing header template: Template:Forumheader/ToK discussion forum. Because the forums use <inputbox> they have to work within the limitations of that system (more inputbox info). The preload parameter in the inputbox allows a template to be inserted into the blank page you are creating for a new forum topic, but the template has to be created separately for each new forum. --Splarka (talk) 02:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations Jason, on your persistence. Its nice to know that the help is out there when we reach the limits of our knowledgeDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 14:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Jaywin, just wanted to say thanks for sending me that link. I think it's great that you've established this connection... this article is going to be so great. Andy Schramm Sonrisasgrandes(talk) 05:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

ToK article by Gregg Henriques

Wow Jason this is looking good. I think that there are several things we can do with this:

  1. Keep the main article on ToK as an article that anyone can edit, rather than replacing it with Henriques article.
  2. Link from ToK to the expert written article ToK by Gregg Henriques.
  3. Protect the article by Henriques, and give it a coloured background to distinguish it from normal articles that anyone can edit.
  4. Make this another unique point of the Psychology Wiki. If we attract guest contributors (experts) to write articles for us one-by-one in the same way that Henriques has, and have these article Protected, and written in Parallel to the main articles, it would be really good.

Of course, the expert can come and update their articles at any time, possibly in light of information brought up in the general user written article (written by general psychologists who don't specialise in their area necessarily).

What do you think of this idea? I think its a good way that we can write the wiki. Its slow, but it means that we can all contribute together, slowly build up quality general articles, with quality expert articles in parallel, to supplement the placeholder articles we already have copied over from WP.

Hope things are going well with you, I will help lots on the ToK stuff :)

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 12:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jason,
Theres a couple of reasons why I thought seperate 'written by the author/expert' articles would be a good idea.
1) Because anyone can edit the article, people would come back (eventually) and change what Herniques had written. This irritates most experts immensley (more so on WP than it would do on the Psy Wiki though I'd imagine) as most experts are better qualified to write the article than most other contributors (even on this wiki). This is one of the chief complaints about WP by experts who have taken time to contribute there.
2) Having expert written articles (which was effectively your idea originally, involving Henriques) will dramatically raise our credibility amongst the academic psychology community.
3) However, if we replaced the community written articles with expert written ones, it wouldnt really be following the spirit of wiki writing, which was why I thought that expert articles in parallel to community articles would be the best way forwards. This way we get the advantages of both approaches, whilst minimizing the disadvantages.
4) The expert articles would inform the general reader and hence raise the quality of the community articles. Likewise, the community articles may actually contain information which the expert had not considered or encountered. There may be critiques/papers of ToK related theory that Henriques has not encountered for example, or an interpretation of his theory by another reader might give him an idea that he may not have already had. All of our research and ideas come from reading other peoples ideas.
5) Attracting expert guest writers will also attract more expert guest writers (and more contributors) hence raising our readership, contributors and credibility again.

I think your template idea is good, we can have a coloured background as part of the template. I'll try to do this tonight on your sandbox article, and a template linking the article on ToK system article too.

Speak to you later Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: I've done the templates now, and added them to Tree_of_Knowledge_System and User:Jaywin/ToK_sandbox. At the moment they are ugly and the colours and formatting need changing, but they should give you the idea. There are some better colours here: HTML colours Find one that you think is good for the expert article, so long as its different from the colours we already use. Why we English have the letter u in colour is beyond me :) Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

For a name for expert written articles how about ARTICLE NAME/Expert article by Dr Seuss blah de blah
For example: Tree_of_Knowledge_System/Expert_article_by_Gregg_Henriques which currently redirects to your sandbox, could be the home for that article. Have a look at those templates and see how I have written them, so you can see how the linking and categorising works. I agree, a lighter blue would be better, I'll try a sapphire type colour instead of the Steel Blue. Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Social processes

I think its the advantage of the category system that we can link a category to a number of areas, so its a good idea to do what you've done.As long as people can find the material they need, thats the main thing. The way we have changed things around shows me the old psychInfo headiings are probably out of date. In a way what we are doing is coming up with a new way of categorising our disciplineDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 06:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi Jason, Ive changed that link for you, let me know if you think its better. You can edit those sidebars easily at: MediaWiki:Sidebar but it think it should be an admin kept secret for the time being!

Also, check out Universities and follow the Newman College links there, so you can see an example of what I'm doing. Do you think you could do something similar for your University? I was thinking Andy could too...

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 13:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jason,
Yes, lets protect that page, although not many people will find it its an obvious vandalism target and should be for admins only. I'm going to add some more links, external resource things, once I can get them sorted. Also, yes, change the links as suggested on Joes page, it looks much neater.
What do you think of the Universities idea so far?
Psychology Department homepage I'd say. I'd have done that for my Uni, but Newman is rather small and our Psy Dept webpage is only accessible through our intranet, so I've linked to that elsewhere. Newman students will know how to find the relevant stuff. Which Uni are you at again?

You're right about this, formatting in the Standard Formatting Guide should be:

Hey Jason, before you get too stuck in, I'd categorise the Universities directly into their country group in the Category:Universities, ie miss out the Universities by country category, as its redundant. What would we put in universities that we wouldnt have listed by country?
What I mean is:


Category:American universities
Category:British Universities
Newman College article etc...

That way it stays nice and simple. Theres room in the Category:Universities for everything I think.

  • See Also: (internal wiki links)
  • External links: (other web site info on that topic)
  • References & Bibliography: (As per the better layout discussed on Joes page)

I think you are right about the State categories. I'd keep it simple though and just call it Universities, but I think I've made it clear (you can emphasise this if you like) that its Universities, colleges and other institutions that are Psychology degree providers. Category:Universities should be fine so long as we make that clear.

Right im going to BED, its like 2am here and ive drunk too much wine to be writing stuff...

I have put up a list of American states on the American universities page if thats helpfulDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 01:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

University directory style

Hi Jason,

I set it up as University/Newman because I wanted to leave space for an article for Newman College as an institution. If you look at things such as University/Newman/Year 1/PY401 etc... then the convention makes more sense.

I cant imagine that we will ever actually write an article about Newman the institution, as its a small place which is not especially important for Psychology research. However, if we were to talk about Birmingham university or MIT or Harvard or Cambridge we clearly need a seperate article to talk about these places in terms of their importance to psychology (both historically and contemporary research wise) as well as University/Birmingham etc.. for the course content.

We also need to be careful with naming, as you have a Birmingham in Alabama right? and isnt harvard in cambridge in America? Whereas our cambridge is our second oldest university in this country.

Hope that makes sense

See Forum:University links for discussionn on this.

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 14:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

IRC channel

Hi Jason. Tom had explored setting this up but we had a bit of trouble getting it to work and it was shelved. I think he was hoping to get it up and running later when ther were more of us working round the clockDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 23:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


No problem man. I ran outta steam for a while, its good to have something simple to do to get back into things. Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Great job guys. If you fancy something else simple it would be good to check the website details for each journal and fill in any easily obtained info. Then I can email the editors. It just shows what a bit of teamwork and fast computers can achieveDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 16:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you help me out please

Hi Jason. I've drawn up a list of categories for each country but I dont know how to get them into the a Psychology by country category. I've copied them to Temporary page for Jaywin could you sort it for me at some time please - no rush. ThanksDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 17:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Jason the wife had me go out to help here with the shopping!!!!

I had in mind Category:world psychology then within that a Category:Psychology by country then within Each country Category:X universities, Category:X psychology organizations, etc. Is what you are doing now in line with that. if it is I will join you.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I must be really thick as I cant work out how to use these categories!!!

Im working in "Psychology in Austria" and want to include "Austrian psychologists" and "Austrian university" categories so the contents show up in subcategories of psychology in Austria. How does it work?Answer me here for convenience. ThanksDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I can see you are making progress on Austria but I cant see how you access the page. When I go to edit the other categories arent there.I want to add in
Category:Austrian economists
Category:Austrian neuroscientists
Category:Austrian philosophers
Category:Austrian psychiatrists

There must be some way to set up the order

with a list of all the country categories.
Click on this say Austria and goto
Psychology in Austria
Austrian universities heading
With list of all Austrian universities below
  • Vienna university
  • Graf Universityetc
Austrian psychologists heading
With list of all Austrian psychologists below
  • Wundt
  • Freud

etc etc Is this possible if so how do we set it up?20:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC) That would be logical and tidy

Try this...

Hi Joe! Yes, this is all possible to set up. Don't worry, I'll help you get how this is done. Basically, you treat a potential sub-category as if it's just another article to be categorized. Try this little exercise...

1.) Go to Category: Psychology in Germany. Notice that it has no subcategories.

2.) Now go to Category:German psychologists. Notice there is no category at the bottom of the page.

  • Click the "edit" tab.
  • Add Category: Psychology in Germany (Of course, make sure it's in between double brackets, [[ ]])
  • Save your edit.

3.) Now, you will have Category:Psychology in Germany at the bottom of the page. Click on it.

4.) Category: German psychologists is now a subcategory of Category: Psychology in Germany

As I said before, it's no different than when you categorize an article...don't let the whole "subcategory" thing throw you!

  • If you want article A to be in category B, then you just add category B to article A
  • If you want category A to be in category B, then you just add category B to category A

See if this helps, (I hope I didn't confuse you more!) Let me know if this helped or not. Have a good one! Jason Bessey - Jaywin (talk) 21:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I just thought of a of another way of putting it if the above exercise doesn't help:

"You categorize a category the same way you categorize an article." Jason Bessey - Jaywin (talk) 21:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Im sorry Jason I still dont get it. I am not well at the moment and so will let it go for a day or too and then come back to you with some proper questions. I just cant get proper control of it to get the layout I describe.Can you do that on Austria? Then I will try on Germany and we can talk in detail. It all seems confusingly back to front to me. To a naive newcomer the subcategory heading is very disorientating. We will need to do a bit of a manual because if Im still not comfortable with it a lot of people will struggle. Thanks for your patienceDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jason I am trying to do category scheme 1] With the world psychology coming off browse too. But cant we also have scheme 2) I thought that was the advantage of categories. So whether you were interested in a country or in universities you would be able to get to the university by either route?Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 14:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Good. Thats right. Many thanks for your help on sorting this out.

Can we get the content of the categories to list out in the way I described above or do you always have to click on the category to get to the list. It would be really useful for smaller categories.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 15:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes like in the Psychology in Austria example above so you would have hradings for Austrian Universities then these would be listed then a heading Austrian Psychologists, so all the Austria links could be laid out on the page. Prerhaps its something to mention to the developers.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 15:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Inviting me

Thanks for inviting me. I've set up a user page and will try to work on materials here whenever I get a moment. regards Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 19:09, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Psychologists record card

Go for it Jason. Its really just an aid for structuring. people can always delete sections that dont apply. Edit it further and Ill have a look at it.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 17:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I've added a bit more to the record card. I think we've improved it quite a bit. Thanks too for tidying them up and organising the category.The news about more qualified people coming on board is just what we need, the challenge is to help them become active contributors.If we can accumulate 20-30 people who know what they are doing and can consolidate the structure we will have a really firm base on which to build.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 22:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Call for papers page

I think this will be one of the strengths of our site, providing a stimulus for people to be more active in our science. The page needs a bit more of an introduction as I was not clear quite what it was for, and perhaps could do with a clearer name. Journals currently calling for papers?. Hope this helpsDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 08:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Blocking Admins

One of the nice things about blocking admins is that they always have the ability to unblock themselves. Other than that, I can tell you that there is no actual direct connection between user accounts and user pages. It's just made to look that way.

--Kirk 19:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Greggs paper

This is really good Jason. I've made a few changes and filled a few links up from WP. Definitely make it a featured article. Could you ask Gregg for a compete bibliography , preferably with links to pdfs of all his papers so we can put that up on his page. I will put a piece up in currrent events. can you check it for accuracy and put the link in when the paper is finalised.Sorry for the delay in replying on family taxi duty etc!!!19:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice guy syndrome

Id seen it before. but the wikify template has skewed it all over. Is that what you meant.?Ill look to see if I can fix it Nadyes articles are not really academic enough and I have asked them to include mor references. I was thinking perhaps incuding them in a section like experiences- like ideas in psychology I have found useful in my life?Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the template a bit. Then saw your comments on the talk page, which I think are fair. Perhaps Nadyes can work up the references and try to improve the article. trouble is I am a nice guy!!!Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Uploading powerpoints

I look forward to that!Im still not quite on top of it butI did Dolph's chapters which were pdfs last week.So assuming the powerpoints work upload them using the 'upload file link' in the toolbox on the left panel.I ran into trouble naming the image etc so to keep it simple I didnt add anything. Once they are up put the file name with the extension where you want the link to be. Highlight this link and click the picture frame next to the A on the editting toolbar on the edit page. This puts the brackets and the word image onto the link. Save and you should be done. When you click on the link you are taken to a page with the icon on to run the link.I hope this is clear. I feel there should be a way to keep the word image hidden but I havent sorted it out yet. Good luck.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 21:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Fantastic ToK article

Hi Jason,

Just wanted to say, fantastic work on the ToK expert written article. I think that trying to attract the experts is the way forward to make the psychology wiki work. Otherwise, we will be just a slightly better version of the psychology pages on Wikipedia, only with less contributors. I will promote our new featured article on the Blogs and forums and try to get people to have a look at it to see what they think. If we aimed to get one expert article written each month, that could be a good start.

We could do with approaching other psychologists who have contributed to unification of psychology articles. I will add a see also to Our Vision to the TOK article by Henriques in order that people can relate Henriques vision to the way our project is envisaged to work.

Nice one! :)

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 23:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

PS I've had a break to recharge my batteries. Im back at Uni in a couple of weeks, and its my 3rd year so I might not be quite as prolific as I was, but I'll get some work done on the wiki. We still need to get more people though cos I am quite fatigued with it after all the work we've done this summer.

Yes I did notice the 24 carat new member

This is just what we need. Now the google analytics are back on stream you can see our hit rate is growing now people are back at uni, and Gregg is just the guy to attract the thinkers. Give it time and we will get some quality debate going on these pages.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 22:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

How do you centre Infoboxes.

Hi Jason I've created an Infobox:highly cited and want to center it on the page Lyn Yvonne Abramson and then have the text follow afterwards. Do you know how to control the placement of the box centrally and then to have the text below without leaving a lot of blank lines on the edit page. cant seem to get it right. ive tried zen but hes not onlineDr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 15:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks for trying. I imagine its simple once we know how. I'll ask Tom - hes still off lione- and i'll let you know once its sorted. Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Chat and Forums

Thanks for sorting out the Chat channel. I am going to try and use it regularly. The forums look good as well.Dr Joe Kiff - User:Lifeartist (talk) 13:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


Good work on geting the youtube link up and running. I was thinking of doing some brief talks on the wiki and putting them up as a way of advertising the site.

Looking at the evolutionary psychology page I think the actual screen looks untidy and I imagine in time we will have several lectures on such pages. I have put a question up on the forum to see if they can get it to go from a thumbnail to a reasonable size. If not, perhaps we would have to keep them on seperate youtube pages say evolutionary psychology-youtube. What do you think?

I browsed the psychology category at youtube the other day and one issue we will have is the quality and the academic tone. It would be good to find a way of maintaining good academic standards like your clip but also to find a way to include some of the more amateur or jokey clips, which might help clarify some of the areas for the students. The seperate page idea might be useful here.

Perhaps we can start cataloging the youtube psychology clips.Dr Joe Kiff 11:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Record cards

Some good idea there Jason.

The end of article record card repeats Bibliograpy etc page layout, although the new name is more consistent. At some point we changed the order of headings, but Ive never been convinced we made the right decision. Compare the two and let me know what you think.
The professional panel is a good idea. But I dont think we should let its placement interefer with the search box for people with small screens.As its one of the main ways people can access articles. Perhaps it could go below it.
The formatting guide is good, and like you say the article needs a bit of work
I did some amendments to the Professional_organisations_record_card, but I think there is more work to be done there too.Just seen your efforts with this great Dr Joe Kiff 21:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Running header

You can edit MediaWiki:Sitenotice: that should work. Pop back to our forum thread if it doesn't. Cheers, —Silly Dan (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I think this is a good feature. The typeface of the announcement tho' should be lighter like the wookiepedia one so it doesnt grab the eye too much. The links need to "earn their keep" and people should be impressed by the content. At the moment the articles linked too are not that hot.
  • Journals currently calling for papers is best but the intro needs improving.
  • 2007 Upcoming events needs more content but its hard with the external link doing so much better. I think this page needs moving as once we get into the new year we will want to record deaths etc on the timeline. We could make an effort and collect together more details tho' to upgrade it.
  • The Expert article is too confusing to link too and needs rewriting. Its probably only a candidate when we have a catalogue of such papers

What do you think?Dr Joe Kiff 15:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work on the articles lacking sources, I'll try and help out where I can.

Yes so I think we ought to call it upcoming conferences, but we will have to work gathering the content if we do it. When things are underway we could do a conference reports section for people to report back. Can you improve the featured article article and make it more relevant? Have you anyone else lined up to invite? I still think the lettering should be slight, it's there on every page, and while things are loading its sometimes the only thing on the page, so people will see it. Currently it attracts my eye away from the article title and it can all seem a bit too cluttered.But I like the idea of the professional content-its part of what makes us different from WPDr Joe Kiff 21:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Just a note to wish you a happy New Year. I look forward to our continuing fruitful collaboration. Cheers.Dr Joe Kiff 18:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

EP Forum

Thanks for creating and letting me know about the EP forum! See you there! Orgone 23:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

ToK diagram

Hi Jason. I'm happy to help out. Where did you get the original diagram from? What we need is the permission of the author to release it under GDFL -to allow anyone to copy it and use it freely. We then need to tag our copy of the image with that permission and then copy over the image and the licence to WP. Let me know when you have the sources permission.Dr Joe Kiff 23:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thats excellent. So try this: 1. click on the imageand it will open its own page. 2.Save the image to your hard drive by right clicking on the name below the image and save target as. 3. on the image page click on the link to reload the image. 4 Fill in the box labelled summary. acknowledginging Gregg, maybe cut a piece out of the email 5.Browse to the copy of the file on your disk 6. Hit the upload file button. That should sort it on our wiki. Then on WP click the image link which will take you to the upload page you can use our summary or try one of their templates. Load the image again form your machine. Hope that helps. let me know if it doesnt and well have to play around a bitDr Joe Kiff 14:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Well done. I think it would be better to say permission granted to use under GDFL -just to make it clear- but its Ok for our purposes. Perhaps add that in for WPDr Joe Kiff 16:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jason

Hi Jason, I'm ok thanks but am very very busy. I'm working 20 hours a week (Job) plus I'm in my final year and have a dissertation, exams and multiple assignments to hand in. I'm stressed but happy!

Tom Michael Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 19:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Free full text

I'm doing really well thanks. Almost finished copying the articles over form List of psychology topics whichreally consolidates the notion of a knowledge structure for the discipline. I am then going to align it with the Thesaurus of Psychological Index Terms to make the site compatible with PsycINFO etc while filling in the gaps left by WP. We will then be in a position to seek adoption by the national psychology societies and get the pages peer reviewed so they become academically quotable. I like your idea of listing journals with free access to afrticles is spot on. I've added your list to List of journals available free online although we might need to change the title at some point. I particularly like your list of the relevant volume listings. Its surprising how few journals list their back catalogue. In time I hope we can approach the editors of all the journals for a statement as to their free access policy and to provide a list of all articles available. I was talking to the head of our local University library who was saying the they thought there were over 2000 relevent journals and they could only subscribe to under 300 because the costs are escalating, Some journals are over $2000 to subscribe to! It is just not a system that is working ethically to make scientific findings available. How libraries in poorer countries cope I do not know.Now we have the technology to correct this anomaly there is no excuse, which is why bit by bit journals are releasing more. Keep up the good work, its all a bit of a slog at the minute but we are positioning ourselves so we cannot be denied. The next five years are going to be extremely interestingDr Joe Kiff 21:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

So the way I see it working is that we get the list of articles available and then insert them into the bibliography of existing articles eg from the Pschological review list the Kohlberg morality ref wouuld find a home at Kohlberg's stages of moral development. While the evolution of memory ref would seed an article of its own.
Its amazing the number of papers put up as full copies by scholars, yet many of these are hidden well down the list on the search engines. I think it is one of the services we perform to maker these more accessible. Although on thing I have noticed is that many of these are not archived and we are losing access to them as people retire People need to be more aware of the long term value of making them available of off their university sites, although there are copyright issues around this in some cases.
I've also found it useful to search for topic+pdf as this can list useful papers.Dr Joe Kiff 22:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be good to beef up the Psychological Review article as you suggest and make it a feature. Have you any ideas how we could improve it?. Dr Joe Kiff 18:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it is OK to put up the link as people can access it through search engines etc. I think perhaps the author has made it available without restriction and might be held to account. Most people following the link us will be wanting to use it for educational purposes and its of no financial benefit to us to provide it.Dr Joe Kiff 14:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

hey there!

Dear Jaywin,

Hello, it's RelentlessRecusant from Central!

I'll try to help out around here, although from what I see, your neuroscience articles are already very developed. ;-)



RelentlessRecusant 14:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Tabs video etc.

Just checked out the way you used the page tab facility to set up the seperate page for the video link at mirror neurons. Thats really neat and we should adopt it as a standardDr Joe Kiff 09:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

How to create a category?

How can I create the following categories:

Attachment theory

Child Development

and, how can I create Category:Psychology Wikians interested in attachment and same for Child Development

thanks Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 22:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey man

Have you finished your degree? I have just finished and am possibly starting a PhD in December (I hope). Just popping by to say hello to you and Joe. Am intending to do a little work here and there to help the project out a bit more, but not the crazy amount that I did last summer.

Catch you later Tom Michael, BSc Mostly Zen Baby tao.jpg (talk) 21:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


I could use some advice and perhaps a bit of help on an evolutionary psychology related article, capture-bonding. I am user hkhenson on wikipedia or email

BTW, if you have not read it, Judith Harris's The Nurture Assumption was written from a strongly EP viewpoint

Keith Henson

(next day)

Reading your page on expert written articles, I have a suggestion that might be worth considering.

As you correctly state, editing wikipedia is a pain in the ass for experts because what they write gets clobbered. I am highly knowledgeable to the expert level myself in a number of areas. I very much doubt for example that we have any significant differences in how we think about EP.

I suggest the possibility that since wikipedia already has this free for all going that this place consider hosting locked expert pages on subjects in parallel to the wikipedia. Cut a deal with wikipedia to cross link so that people who land on a non-expert page there can click to look at an expert written or approved page here and vice versa. I see little point in maintaining non expert pages both places.

In a lot of cases, you could fill this place up rather quickly by having experts vet a particular snapshot of a wikipedia page. Considering the recent situation where a troll or POV pusher stuffed a huge number of articles with BS recently, this would be a valuable service.

Hkhenson 23:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there a chat location where people interested in EP hang out? Hkhenson 00:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


How does the chat work? I logged in, but am not sure I fully understand how to use this forum properly. Thanks. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 00:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


Is there a "what links here" button? Thanks, Hkhenson 20:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Nice evolutionist

It is nice to see an evolutionist or whatever-it-is-the-name. I prefer them to behaviourists.

Hi good to have you back

Hi Jason. Its good to see you back and working on the wiki again. Is habituation and snails the subject of your PhD? If it is I look forward to far more information!! Dr Joe Kiff 17:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Me again

I saw several articles of yours on the Biology Wiki. I don't think it is a good idea to just replicate everything found on Wikipedia. If you want to, you can post a link there. But it is nonsense, in my opinion, to paste the entire set of Biology articles from Wikipedia. Please don't do it anymore. That narrows my list of possible articles. This way I cannot improve Biology main article. Got it? Or am I wrong? Davichito 22:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads-up about the conferences - but i am too busy working on the wiki to go!!! But I think it is good to update the list as with over a million visitors a year I am sure many of them will appreciate the information. Dr Joe Kiff 23:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to say I really appreciate the flood of energy!! Its good to feel a fresh pair of eyes here really geting stuck into the editing. Dr Joe Kiff 00:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I think its important that we adopt a proper system of classification for the animals. Does this help International Code of Zoological Nomenclature? Dr Joe Kiff 10:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Main page

I think it looks far better. I have emailed the authors of the featured journal article. I willl let you know if I hear from them. Dr Joe Kiff 22:58, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Please Block

Hello, Heigtuhh is adding spam messages to peoples talk pages, and i would like something to be done about it. I don't appreciate people annoying me with spam. Thanks Gracey91 09:42, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I am sorry I didn't catch this sooner. I have corrected his spams and he is now blocked. Dr. Becker-Weidman Talk 20:53, October 21, 2011 (UTC)